Myth 1: The only way to create a colorblind society is to adopt policies daltonici.Anche if this seems intuitively plausible, the reality is that color-blind policies often put racial minorities at a disadvantage. For example, ceteris paribus, systems of color-blind seniority tend to protect workers against dismissal of white working because older workers are generally white because of historical discrimination. Similarly, the college admissions colorblind white students because of their earlier educational advantages. Unless preexisting inequities are corrected or not taken into account, color-blind policies do not solve racial injustice – that rafforzano.Mito 2: Affirmative action is not successful in increasing women’s representation and minoranze.Diversi studies have documented important gains racial and gender equality as a direct result of affirmative action. For example, according to a Labor Department report of the United States, affirmative action has helped 5 million minority members and 6 million women of the white minority and advance in employment. Similarly, a study sponsored by the Program Office of Federal Contract Compliance showed that federal contractors (who had to take affirmative action goals) added Black and White officers and directors of women at twice the rate of non-entrepreneurs . There were also a number of well documented cases in which large companies (eg AT & T, IBM, Sears Roebuck) increased employment of minorities, following the adoption of policies of action 3 affermativa.Mito: positive action was needed 30 years ago, but the playing field is fairly level oggi.Nonostante progress, the playing field is anything but level. Women still earn 76 cents for every dollar men. Blacks still have twice the unemployment rate of whites, largely due to discrimination, according to data collected by EEOC.Mito 4: The public no longer supports affirmative action. Polls show most Americans support positive, especially when the polls avoid an all or nothing choice between affirmative action in its current form and not any affirmative action. For example, a CNN / Time found that 80% of people consider “affirmative action programs for minorities and white women should continue at some level.” What the public opposes are quotas, set-aside, and “reverse discrimination.” For example, when the same poll asked people whether they favored programs “requiring businesses to hire a specific number of shares or of minorities and women, 63% opposed such a plan. As these results indicate, most members of the dissident racial preferences that violate notions of fairness – is not contrary positiva.Mito Action 5: A large percentage of white workers lost if affirmative action is not the government support continuato.Statistiche this myth. According to the Department of Commerce of the United States is 1. 3 million unemployed black civilians and civilian employees 112 000 000 White (U.S. Bureau of Census, 2000). So even if all unemployed blacks in the U.S. . were going to move a white worker, only 1% of whites would be affected. Moreover, affirmative action only applies to applicants for skilled jobs, so the actual percentage of affected Whites would be a fraction 1%. The main sources of employment loss among workers have to do with factory relocations and labor contracts outside the United States, computerization and automation, and corporate restructuring. Two white are all qualified for the positions they hold?! No.Mito 6: If the Jews and Asian Americans can rapidly advance economically, African Americans should be able to make the comparison stesso.Questo ignores the unique history of discrimination against blacks in the United States. As a historian Roger Wilkins said, blacks have a history of 375 years of this continent: 245 slavery, 100, legalized discrimination, and only 30 involving anything else. Jews and Asians, on the other hand, are populations that immigrated to America North and included doctors, lawyers, teachers and businessmen in their ranks. Moreover, European Jews are able to work as part of the white majority. Wait black to show the same upward mobility as Jews and Asians is to deny the historical reality social and blacks faccia.Mito 7: You can not cure discrimination with discriminazione.Il problem with this myth is that it uses the same word – discrimination – to describe two very different things. employment discrimination based on prejudice and exclusion, that affirmative action is an effort to overcome prejudicial treatment for inclusion. The most effective way to cure society of exclusionary practices is to make a special effort of integration, which is exactly what affirmative action does. The logic positive discrimination
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The myth that Affirmative Action is not racist (it is racist)
and the myth that it is fair (it is not).
Sorry, but I do not believe your arguments, not for one bloody second.
myth 6 is a lie.
crime rate among the black americans is the highest in USA, even if they tends to change, like obama says african america kids and youth these days only aime for being sports super stars and rap legends which does not economicly support the community like bussiesmen, doctors, teachers, politics, etc…
sorry to break it to ya, but all of blacks interest have no relation to improveing black communities whatsoever
Basically any racial involvement by the government is stupid, everything is fair game today.
My advice to you is just to give it up. Give it up now.
You could use all of the statistics and facts this world has to offer and everyone would STILL believe these myths about affirmative action. No matter what you do, white men/teens who constantly ***** about this on their computers in their comfy little homes built in the comfy little suburbs will always think that they’re the most discriminated people on this earth. If 100 black, asian, and hispanic men were lynched last night, their main concern would probably still be about how the lack of WET is so racist and the biggest crime against humanity. Haven’t you learned yet? They have it the hardest. They’re the real experts. They’re above statistics.
Get with it.
Also, catwoman, white women reap most of the benefits when it comes to affirmative action. Sources are below, my dear. You were saying?
Affirmative action is wrong and immoral. Black people support it becuse they are the one who benefit from it at the expense of all others.
Regarding Myth 1: —”senior employees are usually White because of historical discrimination.” — I doubt there are the same senior employees as there were 30 years ago, if they’re even alive. Many men/women of all races rise the ranks due to hard work and determination (black men/women included).
—”color-blind college admissions favor White students because of their earlier educational advantages” — This is positively absurd. Public school has made it where all kids can go to school starting at a very young age (kindergarten) and if schooling is bad in that region, it hurts all races and genders, not just one or two particular groups. And things such as AP classes and IB classes in some areas can be achieved by any and all races and genders, they only require hard work (which everyone is fully capable of giving). There should be no advantage given to someone based on race or gender when it comes to college admission (this only hurts and causes tension). To assume that people of different races or genders couldn’t achieve the scores and such to get into a college ONLY ON THE BASIS OF their race or gender is highly racist and sexist. People are born with the same opportunity and it is their drive, not their race or gender, which determines their success.
Regarding Myth 2: If they (people of any race or gender who were hired) had the qualifications to do the job, then by all means, power to them. Otherwise, and there ARE cases of this “otherwise”, it was entirely unfair. People should be able to choose who works for them anyway, as that is an important part of business. This also gives fodder to racist people who apply for a job, but are turned down. This has happened firsthand to my family; people threatened a lawsuit because they weren’t hired due to race/gender/whatever, when in fact, they just didn’t have the qualifications.
Regarding Myth 3: Of course the EEOC will say that (they are a biased, and therefore, unreliable source for statistics). I admit the women earning less thing is important, but it doesn’t require affirmative action, it requires women to group together and speak up. The other statistic does not mean people are being discriminatory either. Medicaid and welfare is given to many people, a large percentage of which are black (just matter-of-factly). This kind of action, when given to any race or gender, does not encourage people to work for a living (why should anyone work when they can be given something; there is no incentive). Also, since I I know many blacks specifically ARE employed, the incentive is not there to rise higher maybe due to the added supplement welfare provides. This is true for any race/gender, as evidenced by the USSR and their “community farms” for example. While many people (of all genders and races) can and have risen above this, some are still below. A beautiful thing about America is if there is a will, there is certainly a way.
Regarding Myth 4: —”affirmative action programs for minorities and white women should be continued at some level.” — “at some level” are the key words here. Without specification people can assume anything from almost none in daily life to AA all over the place. In addition, CNN is not a bipartisan news source at all. It is most assuredly liberal.
— “most members of the public oppose racial preferences that violate notions of procedural justice — they do not oppose affirmative action.” — You are just using fancy words here. Affirmative Action is of course a violation of procedural justice, at least for all those cases when people who satisfy the quota are chosen, even if they are less qualified. For all others reading this: “Procedural justice concerns the fairness of the processes by which decisions are made–as contrasted with the distributive justice (fairness in the distribution of rights or resources) and corrective justice (fairness in the rectification of wrongs). Some theories of procedural justice hold that a fair procedure can render the outcomes it produces just, even if they do not satisfy the requirements of distributive or corrective justice. Distributive justice concerns what is just or right with respect to the allocation of goods (or utility) in a society.” (Source: http://www.nationmaster.com/encyclopedia…
Regarding Myth 5: “Furthermore, affirmative action pertains only to job-qualified applicants, so the actual percentage of affected Whites would be a fraction of 1%.” — “AA pertains only to job-qualified applicants” – You know darn good and well that this is not always true. And why should a competent person who already knows their job requirements and such be replaced with another competent person without such knowledge? If AA suddenly reversed itself, it would not be okay so why should it be considered okay now?
—”Two, are all Whites qualified for the jobs they hold?! No.” — No they may not be in which case the free market system and people’s want to profit and do well in business will eventually lead them to abandon these people if they feel it to be necessary. To deliberately force them out would be to abandon the capitalist system.
Regarding Myth 6: “Jews and Asians, on the other hand, are populations that immigrated to North America and included doctors, lawyers, professors, and entrepreneurs among their ranks” — This is the main reason I responded. You should read up on your history. Jews came to America and for over two centuries in some states, they did not even have voting rights (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_… Many also came and rose the ranks through hard work and entrepreneurship (something I might inform you is open to all races and genders, along with every other profession you said). And regarding the Chinese, many were disliked, exploited, and abused upon coming to North America (Ex: the construction of rail roads; major hatred and violence towards them in the gold rushes) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overseas_Ch… It is my belief that anyone with enough drive can be successful, as I keep stating.
Regarding Myth 7: Just say it how it is. Affirmative Action IS discrimination (n. Treatment or consideration based on class or category rather than individual merit; partiality or prejudice; http://www.dictionary.com). The specific inclusion of others based on race/gender is the specific exclusion of others based on race/gender. If it’s by merit and skill, I have no issue. Otherwise, I have plenty. To include people in a set amount of jobs is to exclude people. As a side note directed to anyone reading this, there is no such thing as “reverse discrimination”; there is only discrimination.
Finally, as I have said 10,000 times over, I believe ANYONE of ANY RACE/GENDER (black, white, green, purple, male, female, alien, anyone!) can be successful if they have the willpower. History has shown that people can rise above any roadblocks with enough persistence. Loopholes and cheats (like AA) in the system are an insult to all those who know they CAN AND WILL be successful.
You sir, who (as it seems from your previous questions) propogates racism and racist stereotypes, are one of the causes of continuing racism in the US and around the world. I hope that, in time, you can find it within you to view people as just people, not separated by race/gender/religion/anything else.
Love, kindness, and knowledge, not “inclusionary” practices, are the ways to “cure society”.
Whether Affirmative Action has helped or not isn’t the issue. During the 1960s blacks were fighting for the right to live in America with the freedoms they deserved. How to go about getting those rights was difficult. Many good (great) black and white Americans lost their lives fighting for those rights. Affirmative Action sprang from those volatile times and provided a plan to right those wrongs and finally compensate. In some ways it was a positive step. In others it wasn’t. It created in so many ways and still does, a new form on prejudice. It used to be out and out intolerance for someone of a different race. There was no real reason except genetics that were often inferred. Now it has become modernized and because of Affirmative Action we call it reverse discrimination when it is really the same. One person prejudiced against another because of race, regardless of what we what to admit.
It was like the people thought that racism was somehow solved in the 60’s through the assassinations, the national holidays and the programs. It was like bandaging up a wound that needed stitching and then letting it go. In my opinion it has festered and been given token treatment but the neglected wound is ready to break open in full force sometime here in the near future. Add to that the minority populations that have become a majority in different states and you can see that we are facing a real crisis. I am hoping that the Obama nomination will have some effect on our neglect and that we can come up with some new and lasting ideas with some new titles that will not leave a bad taste in our mouths.
The History Man
I believe that you are very good at playing down the suffering of others like the “jew, native american, chinese, irish, italian, pole, american during the civil war, japanese american during world war two, mexican, vietnamese. and the hmong”. The suffering others endured don’t mean anything to you because for you others are not worthy of respect and dignity as human beings.